Visions?

Do you know of anyone who is getting worse, and is now almost to the extent of becoming pathetic? An attack ogre? Are you afraid to say anything to him now even remotely relating to a certain subject?

You might be hesitant to disclose his identity to others at this time, and even more hesitant to ridicule him, if he has been a best friend in terms of providing for you in many ways, even for decades. But is he now turning into an off-the-wall wacko concerning his growing obsession, necessitating you to be silent when around him, and disassociating away from him as much as possible is fast becoming your only recourse?

Does he have other serious quirks, like extreme jealousy against pentacostal fiery-delivery televised preachers and a lot of others expressing superior theology contrary to his often poorly-semanticized and somewhat-inferior-doctrinal one?

Does he later adamently insist - even to the point of bellering out condemnatory profanity - that he said something that he actually did not say earlier, or later deny (with cruel expletives) saying something that he actually did say earlier? And if you had a tape recorder to prove to him what he did not or did actually say, would he not get infuriated that you were secretly recording him with it?

Added to that, does he suck up to feminist-sexist-twit newscasters each morning? And turn up the sound on the TV, resulting in you desperately secluding yourself and surrounding yourself with equal-volume distraction sounds, like the noise of a loud fan or basement bench grinder whirring away? Is he is too proud to wear headphones?

Did he vote for the woman candidate Sarah Palin for McCain's VP choice in the 2008 election? That should speak for itself right there!

Getting back to your main complaint about him, relating to his insisting that you mouth an: "if the Lord wills" [James 4:15] to the extent of it becoming a required mantra every time you utter a proposed possibly-prophetic plan for what you plan to do....has it gotten so bad that you cannot even tell him that you plan to do this or that, being he infers that that is [alleged] "arrogance" - and, specifically: "arrogance against God?"

Would it not be quite ironic if it is that that same guy dogmatically blatters out his plan for a Pre-Tribulation Rapture happening - with no ifs, ands, or buts - in his prophecy propaganda?

If there are any webpage readers who have a similar situation with someone extremely close to them, you can safely say: "I feel your pain."

You perhaps feel that you cannot be too hard on him alone, because you might know of others who also see no problem with female newscasters flapping their feminist-sexist jaws on TV and radio, and which others also voted for the woman candidate Sarah Palin for Vice President of the United States. Perhaps they also (like the aforementioned attack ogre) have a depravatory hang-up against: "drinking" (specifically: drinking moderate amounts of alcoholic beverages with or without getting drunk or intoxicated with them).

It seems that then you are in danger of becoming an extinct species within my your family.

Added to that presumption of a PRE-Trib Rapture, but the persons mentioned might repeatedly relate to others purported visions of God and glory they say they had, and you don't really know what to say about that, although you do know the following - pro and con - about "visions":

Gen 46:2 And God spoke to Israel in visions of the night, and said, "Jacob, Jacob." And he said, "Here am I."

2Ch 9:29 Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, from first to last, are they not written in the history of Nathan the prophet, and in the prophecy of Ahijah the Shilonite, and in the visions of Iddo the seer concerning Jeroboam the son of Nebat?

Job 4:13 Amid thoughts from visions of the night, when deep sleep falls on men,
Job 7:14 then thou dost scare me with dreams and terrify me with visions,

Jer 23:16 Thus says the LORD of hosts: "Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you, filling you with vain hopes; they speak visions of their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD.

Lam 2:14 Your prophets have seen for you false and deceptive visions; they have not exposed your iniquity to restore your fortunes, but have seen for you oracles false and misleading.

Eze 1:1 In the thirtieth year, in the fourth month, on the fifth day of the month, as I was among the exiles by the river Chebar, the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God.
Eze 8:3 He put forth the form of a hand, and took me by a lock of my head; and the Spirit lifted me up between earth and heaven, and brought me in visions of God to Jerusalem, to the entrance of the gateway of the inner court that faces north, where was the seat of the image of jealousy, which provokes to jealousy.
Eze 13:9 My hand will be against the prophets who see delusive visions and who give lying divinations; they shall not be in the council of my people, nor be enrolled in the register of the house of Israel, nor shall they enter the land of Israel; and you shall know that I am the Lord GOD.
Eze 13:16 the prophets of Israel who prophesied concerning Jerusalem and saw visions of peace for her, when there was no peace, says the Lord GOD.
Eze 13:23 therefore you shall no more see delusive visions nor practice divination; I will deliver my people out of your hand. Then you will know that I am the LORD."
Eze 21:29 while they see for you false visions, while they divine lies for you--to be laid on the necks of the unhallowed wicked, whose day has come, the time of their final punishment.
Eze 22:28 And her prophets have daubed for them with whitewash, seeing false visions and divining lies for them, saying, 'Thus says the Lord GOD,' when the LORD has not spoken.
Eze 40:2 and brought me in the visions of God into the land of Israel, and set me down upon a very high mountain, on which was a structure like a city opposite me.

Dan 1:17 As for these four youths, God gave them learning and skill in all letters and wisdom; and Daniel had understanding in all visions and dreams.
Dan 2:28 but there is a God in heaven who reveals mysteries, and he has made known to King Nebuchadnezzar what will be in the latter days. Your dream and the visions of your head as you lay in bed are these:
Dan 4:5 I had a dream which made me afraid; as I lay in bed the fancies and the visions of my head alarmed me.
Dan 4:10 The visions of my head as I lay in bed were these: I saw, and behold, a tree in the midst of the earth; and its height was great.
Dan 4:13 "I saw in the visions of my head as I lay in bed, and behold, a watcher, a holy one, came down from heaven.
Dan 7:1 In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon, Daniel had a dream and visions of his head as he lay in his bed. Then he wrote down the dream, and told the sum of the matter.
Dan 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold, a fourth beast, terrible and dreadful and exceedingly strong; and it had great iron teeth; it devoured and broke in pieces, and stamped the residue with its feet. It was different from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
Dan 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and behold, with the clouds of heaven there came one like a son of man, and he came to the Ancient of Days and was presented before him.

Hosea 12:10 I spoke to the prophets; it was I who multiplied visions, and through the prophets gave parables.

Joel 2:28 "And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit on all flesh; your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, and your young men shall see visions.

Acts 2:17 'And in the last days it shall be, God declares, that I will pour out my Spirit upon all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams;

Col 2:18-19 Let no one disqualify you, insisting on self-abasement and worship of angels, taking his stand on visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind, and not holding fast to The Head (Christ).....

Col 3:9 Do not lie to one another, seeing that you have put off the old nature with its practices

2Cor 12:1 I must boast; there is nothing to be gained by it, but I will go on to visions and revelations of the Lord.

1Tim 1:3 As I urged you when I was going to Macedonia, remain at Ephesus that you may charge certain persons not to teach any different doctrine,
4 nor to occupy themselves with myths and endless genealogies which promote speculations rather than the divine training that is in faith;
5 whereas the aim of our charge is love that issues from a pure heart and a good conscience and sincere faith.
6 Certain persons by swerving from these have wandered away into vain discussion,
7 desiring to be teachers of the law, without understanding either what they are saying or the things about which they make assertions.
8 Now we know that the law is good, if any one uses it lawfully,
9 understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
10 immoral persons, sodomites, kidnapers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine,
11 in accordance with the glorious gospel of the blessed God with which I have been entrusted.

1Tim 4:1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by giving heed to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons,
2 through the pretensions of liars whose ["bound"] consciences are seared,
3 who forbid marriage [along with fellatio within marriage] and enjoin abstinence from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.
4 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving;
5 for then it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.

1Tim 4:7 (KJ21) But reject profane and old wives' fables [Gr. tous de beb(e)gous kai gra(o)deis muthous paraitou etc.], and exercise thyself rather unto godliness.
1Tim 4:7 (RSV) Have nothing to do with godless and silly myths. Train yourself in godliness;

2Tim 4:3 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own likings,
4 and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander into myths.

Titus 1:13 This testimony is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith,
14 instead of giving heed to Jewish myths or to commands of men who reject the truth.
15 To the pure all things are pure, but to the corrupt and unbelieving nothing is pure; their very minds and consciences are corrupted.
16 They profess to know God, but they deny him by their deeds; they are detestable,
disobedient, unfit for any good deed. instead of giving heed to Jewish myths or to commands of men who reject the truth.

2Pet 1:16 For we did not follow cleverly devised myths when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty.

Heb 1:1 In many and various ways God spoke of old to our fathers by the prophets;
Heb 1:2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.

I recently saw the latest Star Trek movie starring a new Captain James Tiberius Kirk, Dr. McCoy, Scotty, and both the old and a young Spock. The special-effects graphics were superb, as expected, but pseudo-science fairy-tale looniness permeated the sci-fi movie when it came to the [purported] "black hole" plus both the entrance through it and also traveling back or forward in time in huge gaps bypassing normally-progressing time.

The ludicrous figment of imagination of both a "black hole" and "time travel" are so ridiculous they are almost not worth mentioning. Pseudo-"scientist" speculators state that [so-called] "black holes" are actually former-star groups of mass so condensed that the super-intense gravitational force from such prevents even "nearby" light from escaping. In reality, matter compacted THAT densely and intensely would instantaneously become so hot it would spontaneously ignite into a mega-blast thermonuclear-explosion supernova. And there obviously would be NO [purported] "time travel" through nor because of such. So much for that lying and deceptively-heretical vision!

The person I mentioned at the beginning of this piece who not only insists on everyone mouthing an: "if the Lord wills" mantra before or after every stated futuristic intention or exclamation, and now infers that even mentioning that one plans to do this or that is [supposedly] exhibiting blasphemous "arrogance against God because we are a mist and do not know the future" would cause some serious and potentionally VERY dangerous situations under certain circumstances. Consider it applied to the following:

Army Command General: Soldier, will you be at the Attack Entry Point exactly at 0400?
Soldier: I cannot plan on that, because only God knows the future. If the LORD wills....
Army Command General: Look, soldier, will you or will you not be there on time?

Potential Groom: Will you marry me?
Potential Bride: I cannot really say, because only God knows the future. I cannot say to you that I plan on that.
Potential Groom: Screw you.

Squad-Car Police Officer: "The reason I stopped you is that you ran that red stoplight. Are you going to do that again?
Car Driver: I cannot plan on that; only God knows the future. IF the LORD wills....
Squad-Car Cop: "Step OUT of the car and put your hands behind your back...NOW!"

Clearly the theologically-warped weirdo should read, understand, and believe the following verses of Scripture which he purports to associate in general with:

Prov 12:20 Deceit is in the heart of those who devise evil, but those who plan good have joy.

Jer 49:20 Therefore hear the plan which the LORD has made against Edom and the purposes which he has formed against the inhabitants of Teman: Even the little ones of the flock shall be dragged away; surely their fold shall be appalled at their fate.
Jer 50:45 Therefore hear the plan which the LORD has made against Babylon, and the purposes which he has formed against the land of the Chaldeans: Surely the little ones of their flock shall be dragged away; surely their fold shall be appalled at their fate.
Eze 43:10 "And you, son of man, describe to the house of Israel the temple and its appearance and plan, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities.

Eph 3:9 and to make all men see what is the plan of the mystery hidden for ages in God who created all things;

1Thess 5:20 do not despise prophesying,
21 but test everything; hold fast what is good,
22 abstain from every form of evil.

2Thess 2:1 Now concerning the [Rapture Second] coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our assembling to meet him, we beg you, brethren,
2 not to be quickly shaken in mind or excited, either by spirit or by word, or by letter purporting to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come.
3 Let no one deceive you in any way; for that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of perdition,
4 who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.

Titus 3:12 When I send Artemas or Tychicus to you, do your best to come to me at Nicopolis, for I have decided to spend the winter there. [Talk about planning ahead! And could such planning credibly be called: "arrogance against God?"]

Rev 19:10 Then I fell down at his feet to worship him, but he said to me, "You must not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brethren who hold the testimony of Jesus. Worship God." For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

In conclusion, and "with all due respect" (being like he might like the obey-authority-above-all-else thing, like the Nazis did), the man comes down a little too hard and heavy on the "if the creek don't rise" factor, admittedly concordant with:

Eccl 6:12 For who knows what is good for man while he lives the few days of his vain life, which he passes like a shadow? For who can tell man what will be after him under the sun?
Eccl 8:7 For he does not know what is to be, for who can tell him how it will be?
Eccl 10:14 A fool multiplies words, though no man knows what is to be, and who can tell him what will be after him?

But that is quite humanistic, does not require faith whatsoever, and is only part of the total picture.

If genuine scientists could not predict events years ahead, such as the exact time of the rising and setting of sunlight and eclipses and so on, no inventive and innovative endeavors could ever have occurred. We can calmly trust and prophesy, confident of the dependability of God and His natural phenomena...and that should not be ignored, despised, nor condemned in any way.

Sure, God can do (and has done) the non-expected - like [abnormally] change water into wine, raise up dead people back to life, temporarily stop normally-moving sunlight in its place at the behest of a Hebrew soldier, cause an Old-Testament sundial shadow to move the opposite direction, make iron float, and suddenly calm a raging storm by simply speaking to it.

But why can't us scientists in faith and confidence plan that dependable phenomena of nature will predictably happen, like gravity consistently continuing to pull things down back to Earth (except in the bizarre one-time case of an ascending Jesus)?