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Neil Hope's Story (By Catherine Dunphy: from the book: Degrassi Talks-
                                             1992)

     Degrassi Talks based on interviews taped for the TV documentary subjects like: Alcohol, abuse, sex,
     drugs and so on.

     This is an interview with the actor Neil Hope by Catherine Dunphy:

     "A lot of teens drink. In fact 74% of Canadian teenagers use alcohol.  I'm Neil Hope. In the Degrassi series
     I played the character Wheels. Both Wheels and I have had our life changed by alcohol. Wheels lost his
     parents due to a drunk driving accident, I lost my real father to an alcoholic's disease.  You think my
     decision to stay away from alcohol would be a easy one. It's not.  Pressures to drink are everywhere".

     "We have traveled around the country to find out how Canadian teenagers are dealing with the issue- to
     drink or not to drink.  About working on Degrassi Talks, Neil says: " It taught me a lot more about alcohol...
     Being able to talk to other kids who are going through the same things was like a therapy. For others, I
     think they will finally learn that alcohol can kill". Neil's own story about growing up as a child of alcoholics is
     next.

     He made it look so easy. Walking towards the camera, looking it straight in the eye, saying firmly, calmly:
     "Me too, I'm a child of alcoholic parents. I know".
     But this wasn't Wheels talking. It was Neil Hope, the real person behind the kid from Degrassi. No more hiding
     behind a made-up character.
     And it wasn't easy. It never is. it wasn't when he was interviewing Nathan about his life with alcoholic parents for
     Degrassi Talks. Nathan is a very quiet, very withdrawn person. Even with a microphone, it was hard to hear what
     he was saying.
     So series producer and Degrassi founder Linda Schuyler suggested that they turn the tables. Literally.
     They turned the camera around and pointed it at Neil, and Nathan asked him questions about what he went
     through growing up in an alcoholic home.
     And Neil talked and Nathan listened.

     Neil did that a lot as he traveled around western Canada interviewing other teens about alcoholism.
     "I'd tell them before the interview started I was a child of alcoholics and I could almost see their bodies relax", he
     recalls. "After the interview was over, a lot of them wanted to keep talking and telling their stories. It was almost
     like a weight was lifted from their shoulders because they had talked about it and felt better.
     "And they had really talked about it- not just "I'm a child of an alcoholic" and then little stories here and there- but
     they really got everything out".
     "So now a lot of them feel they can talk about it and not feel ashamed about it".

     Not feel ashamed about it.
     For many kids whose parents are drunks, this is what it is all about.
     Try telling them it's not their fault, that they have nothing to do with why a mother or a father, or grandparent, has
     to drink and get drunk, why they can't quit the habit, why the bottle is always more important than the kids is.
     Try telling kids they can bring their friends home after school because even if their friends see their parents passed
     out on a floor, or in a boozy rage, it's nothing for the kid to be ashamed or because it's not his fault.
     It doesn't wash.
     Neil knows that. He never brought friends home after school because, he says, he wanted to deny it and
     everything else that was going on around him.
     And if his friends saw his mother, then he would have to see her. Really see her.
     It was easier to pretend.
     Pretend to the outside world, that is because there was no escape from drinking at home.

     Neil is the baby of the Hope family, the fifth kid, the fourth son. Both his parents were already alcoholics when he
     was born September 24, 1972, in Toronto.
     He figures it probably wasn't long after when his dad left home for the last time.
     Anyway, Neil has no memory of living with a mother and a father together in the same house.

     For him it's always been either/or. The kids would stay with their mom for as long as they could take it, then they
     would move in with their dad. When things ot too tough there, they'd all shift back to wherever their mother was
     living.
     As a result, he went to six or seven different schools and grew up all over Toronto- in the east end in the
     Gerrad/Pape area, across the street from the headquarters of a motorcycle club, and out in the west end, down
     by the lake shore strip in Etobicoke, "where all the drunks are".
     That's his description. He laughs when he says it.

     But it's not a real laugh. not natural. It's hollow and it sounds bitter. In the television episode of Degrassi Talks...
     On Alcohol, you can see a photo of a laughing young boy named Jimmy and ot the newspaper articles which
     reported how his body was found among a bunch of trash in a dumpster in that rough part of town.
     He had died from alcohol poisoning. He was only 15 but alcohol killed him.
     Neil knew him. He was the son of one of his mother's drinking buddies.
     His mother had a lot of them. They drank a lot. And they always seemed to be fighting.
     "That's something that I don't think will ever go away. Nathan talked about that too," Neil says. "Fighting between
     parents or watching your mother fight with somebody always sticks in your head.

     "I was so afraid someone would get hurt.
     It frightened me when I was little. Just hearing it. The yelling and the smacking and cleaning up the blood. It's just
     frightening".
     The worst time was when he was only 5 or 6. The family was living in the east end then and his mother would get
     drunk with her friends and turn up the country music and sing along.
     Neil's face flushes and he frowns. "I hate country music now because that's why my mom listened to. I just get
     shivers when I hear country and western song".
     Because it also makes him remember when the police car and the ambulance pulled up in front of their house
     because his mother had slit her wrists.

     That's the memory that sticks, that's always there, that's never going away, that won't fade with time.
     There's always one memory with kids who your father passed out face down in your birthday cake in front of all
     your friends.
     For others, it's the time a mother "forgot" to pick them up from a skating lesson and left them waiting in a
     snowstorm who is just a kid, who should be cared for, looked after, protected, always laughing, feels totally
     helpless. And afraid.
     Really afraid. Not the fear that comes from remembering a scary movie, but the fear from the much worse
     realization that a kid is caught inside a terrifying story, that he can't get out, that there is nothing, nothing he can do
     to fix it, make it better, or change anything.

     Neil was 5 when he knew that.
     His sister Cheery, used to make a lot of the lunches for everybody, his brothers Stacey, Brian, Danny, looked out
     for him too.
     But even when they tried, the boys never succeeded in breaking up any of the fights and they never stopped their
     mother from drinking when she get her mind to do it.
     When Neil was younger and his mother was on one of her binges- when she would get up at about 10 in the
     morning and drink all day till she passed out, usually about midnight he used to try and distract her, ask her to go
     for a  walk, offer to take her to a movie.

     He shakes his head. "It didn't work. She wanted her alcohol. That was her escape".
     When they went to stay with their father on weekends, it wasn't much better. He would get "all drunked up and
     yell and curse and swear at my mom and about two in the morning pick up the phone and crank call her and we'd
     be sitting there having to listen to him call a fucking bitch and everything else".

     But Neil adored his dad.
     "He was never physical with us, " he says.
     meaning he never was violent. "He never said a bad word about us. He cherished us, he really loved us".
     From the time he was 8, Neil wanted to be an actor. or director. or just a part of movies, television. He was
     always watching TV.
     "We'd have dinner sitting on the floor and watching TV. Our family wasn't the Brady Bunch. We didn't have a big
     dinner table, you just grabbed whatever you found on the couch or floor.
     "I was always interested in how the shows were made. What was everybody's job? I always watched the credits
     wondering what a grip was. What is a director? The more I thought and it the more I wanted to get into it".

     He admits it was an escape. "I loved cartoons especially because they were animated. They weren't real. They
     were something I could get into. I still watch Bugs Bunny, that was my greatest escape as a kid.
     "To my dying days, I think I will watch cartoons".

     He wanted to be a part of television. He took an on-camera training course, which his father paid for, and had
     professional photographs made up. He went on auditions, he was determined.
     "My dad was always there for me. He paid more than $400 for my course and it was more than a year before
     anything happened."

     His brother Stacey's girlfriend worked in a shelter for battered women not far from the Playing With Time offices.
     She saw a huge sign they had in the window calling for kids to audition for parts in a television show.
     Neil was 10 when he got a part in an early episode of the Kids of Degrassi called Marting Meets The Pirates. It
     was supposed to be one-shot deal, but he stayed on as Griff, and later when the series shifted to Junior High,
     took the part of Wheels.

     His father was fiercely proud of him. So was his mother, only she never said as much. When she's not drinking she
     is a private person who doesn't talk about feelings or emotions much. Neil remembers finally asking her, when he
     was 12 or 13, whether she was proud of him.
     "She said, Of course I am, and that was that" he recalls.
     But it wasn't. Not for Neil.
     "That's another thing about being a child of alcoholics", he says. "You want that little bit of the attention that's all
     going to the bottle. I wanted to be in the spotlight for them".
     So, out of all the kids, Neil was the "good" one. In fact, thanks to the Degrassi pay check, he was the family's
     "saviour".
     He makes in a face when he says that. "I was the saviour because my mom was getting money from me to buy the
     booze. or else she would spend all of her money on booze and I would have to buy the groceries.

     "I was always the praised one in the family because I was on television. I had a job and the cops weren't coming
     to the door because of me.
     They were there because of Danny, who was two years older from Neil, and very, very angry.
     "I kept my anger inside and didn't let it go", says Neil, "but Danny let it go all the time. He was stealing, just trying
     to get her attention, when all her attention was going to the bottle.

     Neil 's dad died in 1987. He died of cirrhosis, a disease of the liver. The booze killed him.
 

     Neil didn't admit it, but, he does say now he was big on denial because some things were obviously eating away at
     him.
     Playing With Time, the company which made the Degrassi television series and which has made the Degrassi Talks series, had begun a Foundation.
     And the foundation had money which it made available grants to the kids on the show to make their own
     productions. It was Neil, the fledgling director, not the child of alcoholics, who applied for and got a grant to
     make a documentary about having an alcoholic parent.

     He was being practical and paying attention to the old rule of all first time writers write about what you know.
     He turned the camera onto the mother of his buddy and co-producer, Bill Parrott, who Played Shane in the show.
     And Rebecca Haines, better known as Kathleen to viewers of Degrassi, talked candidly about what she went
     through before her dad sought treatment for his alcoholism.

     Then Neil sat down in the hot seat and talked about how he felt having one parent who died because of alcohol
     and another who is living for nothing but alcohol.
     "It was some time when I was making that film that I finally came to terms with it.
     That I could really talk about it because I finally knew it's nothing to be ashamed of because it's not your fault".
     But as it turned out, The Darker Side was just the first step in his healing. His father's death had shaken him more
     than he had admitted.

     For the first time ever, he took the bottle. He drank enough to get drunk three of four nights out ot the week.
     These days he's sure he's probably a "normal" drinker, somebody who can have a couple of beer every so often
     and not need any more.
     But many people believe that if a person has one parent who is an alcoholic he or she has a 50 per cent chance of
     becoming an alcoholic himself. Two parents and the odds skyrocket up to 80 per cent.
     Experts have also noted that some families seem to have a "streak" of alcoholism running through them that can go
     back generations and generations.
     Neil's family is like that. both his mother's parents were alcoholics.

     So when things were bad, it wasn't surprising for Neil to turn to drinking.
     And they were. He was so depressed he thought about suicide. often.
     "I didn't give a shit about living".

     But he still cared about making movies.
     He sat down and wrote a script. It was supposed to be fiction but it was his own life, more or less.
     The Playing With Time Foundation approved his application for a second time and he got enough money for a
     week's shoot.
     "In the script, I changed the ending of my life and as I was writing it I really came to terms with how stupid suicide
     is and how stupid I was to be thinking about it".
     But his own healing wasn't over yet.
     Perhaps it never will be.

     The season opened that year for the Degrassi series was a shocker. Both Wheels parents are killed in a car crash,
     a plot which was not entirely a coincidence since so much of what happened in the television show was regularly
     reflected in the real lives of the actors.
     Neil knew it was helping to have a lot of his personal life go into the television show.
     But when it came time to shoot the funeral scene and the entered the church and saw two caskets, he lost it.
     These were empty coffins which were supposed to contain Wheels parents, but, Neil couldn't act any more. What
     he saw there were the two caskets of his brother and his father.
     "We went to stop shooting because Wheels wasn't supposed to cry because he was angry. But I couldn't keep it
     back any more", he says.
     "Wheels was always saying why me? but, I didn't because I knew what life and death was. I understood that,
     especially after my brother.
     "I cried my tears and did my anger but there was no self pity trip".
     Which is also the last thing Neil says in his documentary.
     As the credits roll, he says "I don't want any pity".

     That's not what you go public about alcoholism for, he says. You go public, you make a movie if you're Neil
     Hope and that's what you want to do for the rest of your life. Or if you're not Neil Hope but you do have an
     alcoholic at home, you tell a teacher, or a friend or a support group because you finally understand and believe it's
     not your fault.
 
 
 
 

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